到目前为止有多少是假档

请先说明那些是真无损档吧，确证后积分在考虑返还……

我操，最讨厌这种人了，无聊！

下过好几张 呢
马克思佩恩2肯定是Gamerip
因为我查过VGMDB没有该资料
现在问下暗黑和暴雨是否真无损

随便找几首暗黑编年史的检测下
结果如下
auCDtect: CD records authenticity detector, version 0.8.2
Copyright (c) 2004 Oleg Berngardt. All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 2004 Alexander Djourik. All rights reserved.
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Processing file:    [Never-Ending Adventure (Rush's Theme).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 1.960754e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.875995e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 1.979629e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.904422e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 1.945800e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 6.736286e-003
First order smothness: 8.896926e-001
Second order smothness: 7.531646e-001

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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%

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Processing file:    [Secret Conversation.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 1.958396e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.766067e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 1.921437e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.788535e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 1.937700e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 2.837695e-002
First order smothness: 8.235995e-001
Second order smothness: 7.723480e-001

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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%

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Processing file:    [Time is Changing (Japanese Original Version).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 1.887729e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.761050e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 1.892835e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.792992e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 1.669600e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.164416e-002
First order smothness: 9.079755e-001
Second order smothness: 7.064902e-001

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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%

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Processing file: [Demon (Dark Cloud Main Theme).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 1.946566e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.777525e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 1.958344e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.856459e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 1.939300e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 2.687172e-003
First order smothness: 9.238006e-001
Second order smothness: 6.716839e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Secret Energy.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 1.950452e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.893343e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 1.970505e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.915770e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 1.944700e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.615156e-002
First order smothness: 8.969359e-001
Second order smothness: 7.130919e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Time is Changing (English Original Version).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 1.908581e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.778904e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 1.917444e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.806899e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 1.945800e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 5.368592e-003
First order smothness: 8.925460e-001
Second order smothness: 7.166828e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Time is Changing (Japanese Acoustic Version).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 1.883038e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.730446e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 1.874671e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.758379e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 1.669600e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 3.419013e-003
First order smothness: 8.951796e-001
Second order smothness: 7.065675e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
又检测了FFX-2 International+Last Mission ost
结果如下
auCDtect: CD records authenticity detector, version 0.8.2
Copyright (c) 2004 Oleg Berngardt. All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 2004 Alexander Djourik. All rights reserved.
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Processing file: [Last Mission No.2.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.060492e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.894759e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.065711e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.017344e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.070700e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 9.629761e-003
First order smothness: 8.031453e-001
Second order smothness: 6.976681e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Last Mission No.3.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.097433e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.973848e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.116821e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.058100e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.082000e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.372326e-002
First order smothness: 8.211411e-001
Second order smothness: 8.228911e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Real Emotion (FF X-2 Mix).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.093681e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.889508e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.102531e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.057967e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.078800e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 6.478506e-002
First order smothness: 7.136646e-001
Second order smothness: 8.055901e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 100%
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Processing file: [To You 'Kimi e' - Theme of Main Character Yuna.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.075595e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.865797e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.083698e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.038973e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.070700e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.351098e-002
First order smothness: 7.060294e-001
Second order smothness: 7.913152e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%

他的暴雨原声是整轨
随便检测几首
结果好一点
看哪位能看频谱才能最终定论
auCDtect: CD records authenticity detector, version 0.8.2
Copyright (c) 2004 Oleg Berngardt. All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 2004 Alexander Djourik. All rights reserved.
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Processing file:    [Ethan Mars' Main Theme.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.031850e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.576985e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.098227e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.010975e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.189100e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 3.000294e-002
First order smothness: 4.088713e-001
Second order smothness: 6.794027e-001

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This track looks like CDDA with probability 99%

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Processing file:    [Lauren Winter's Main Theme.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.031697e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.398778e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.103974e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 4.434295e+003 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.189100e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.145776e+000
First order smothness: 3.303571e-001
Second order smothness: 3.849206e-001

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This track looks like CDDA with probability 100%

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Processing file:    [Looking for Shaun (Mars' Action Soundtrack).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.043620e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.824207e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.090837e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.736254e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.013100e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.840270e-002
First order smothness: 6.248795e-001
Second order smothness: 6.162006e-001

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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%

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Processing file:    [Redemption.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.035927e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.563780e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.105448e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 9.348226e+003 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.189100e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.992382e-002
First order smothness: 3.859813e-001
Second order smothness: 4.214953e-001

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This track looks like CDDA with probability 100%

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Processing file:    [The Fight (Shelby's Action Soundtrack).wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.065450e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.842818e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.094918e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.754404e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.008200e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 6.612222e-003
First order smothness: 6.232179e-001
Second order smothness: 6.598778e-001

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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
检测影之心2OST
结果如下
auCDtect: CD records authenticity detector, version 0.8.2
Copyright (c) 2004 Oleg Berngardt. All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 2004 Alexander Djourik. All rights reserved.
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Processing file: [Anastasia -Going Her Way-.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.158142e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.998301e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.167284e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.084537e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.190800e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.866889e-002
First order smothness: 8.634538e-001
Second order smothness: 6.907631e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Evil Gate Opener III.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.154541e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 2.015857e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.177294e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 1.971700e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.111100e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 1.403052e-002
First order smothness: 7.587588e-001
Second order smothness: 6.806807e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Glint Of Light.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.252036e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 2.130333e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.265047e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.207452e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.215400e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 2.359955e-003
First order smothness: 8.559671e-001
Second order smothness: 7.201646e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Prelude~.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.243102e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.980307e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.258228e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.192230e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.204900e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 2.142299e-002
First order smothness: 7.735221e-001
Second order smothness: 8.251457e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Rasputin.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.208067e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 1.902584e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.211483e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.133346e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.149200e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 3.042314e-002
First order smothness: 7.134670e-001
Second order smothness: 8.273639e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Swoop!.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.246531e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 2.074319e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.263682e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.214832e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.193200e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 7.316645e-003
First order smothness: 7.751244e-001
Second order smothness: 7.641791e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
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Processing file: [Town of Twilight.wav]
Detected average hi-boundary frequency: 2.237513e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-boundary frequency: 2.045766e+004 Hz
Detected average hi-cut frequency: 2.241493e+004 Hz
Detected average lo-cut frequency: 2.129029e+004 Hz
Maximum probablis boundary frequency: 2.151600e+004 Hz
Coefficient of nonlinearity of a phase: 2.764412e-002
First order smothness: 7.937154e-001
Second order smothness: 8.050626e-001
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This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%

打酱油的俺是

经我随便检测的结果如下
马克思佩恩2没发过OST
肯定是Gamerip
暗黑编年史和FFX-2 International+Last Mission的OST都是分轨且结果都是This track looks like MPEG with probability 95%
基本上是假档
暴雨和影之心2的OST都是整轨但单个FLAC里还内嵌CUE这点很令人怀疑
影之心2基本上也是假档
暴雨还需要进一步检测
但估计假档概率很大(覆巢之下安有完卵)
最后说一句
micfox太令人失望了不但浪费大家的时间还让人空欢喜一场

很多gamerip都基本是Lossy的，没必要指责啥的，别人发的假档，直接转载过来，这可能是不小心。
按规矩办事即可，下不为例咯～
我很羡慕fox的分享精神。
希望能够分享出更多高质量的VGM！

我有興趣的是，
假設如不是刻意為之的話，
哪來那麼多假檔可以下載...?

有分享精神是一件好事，
不過別有居心就不好了，嗯orz

一個兩個可以理解 大面積的就非常可疑了

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引用第28楼zqxinran于2010-11-18 22:40发表的  :
很多gamerip都基本是Lossy的，没必要指责啥的，别人发的假档，直接转载过来，这可能是不小心。
按规矩办事即可，下不为例咯～
我很羡慕fox的分享精神。
希望能够分享出更多高质量的VGM！

不是不小心，而是根本不负责任。
下面引用MICFOX某帖中的对话。http://www.astost.com/bbs/read.php?tid=10864146

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引用第19楼kenba于2010-11-08 00:41发表的  :
全部下载完鸟~~!还先多谢LZ那种分享精神~~但也不应该把320K的MP3那来合并再发资源上来吧
其中只有(fantasy 和 tears)是真的无损因为以前有人发过鸟其余四个是假的,作为发布资源你没检
查的吗?还是自己合并的呢?请已经下载的人自己检查下吧~~!

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引用第30楼micfox于2010-11-10 19:25发表的  :
首先，这些无损我都是下载下来的，上传，发帖都需要精力跟时间的，我不可能所有这些专辑都去check他们是不是真无损，事实上我承认我的耳朵也分辨不出来。
其次，这六个专辑之前astost上都有人发过，所以即使全部是真无损，你也大可以说因为之前有人发过，所以我就变得一点credit都没有的。

不管怎么说，收了人家的论坛币，就应该对自己的档负起责任。
就算不上传分享，自己收藏也该检查一下真假无损吧。（不知道是不是MICFOX收了太多的假无损，不过MP3转的应该比较容易听得出来。）
何况别人下载、回复和挣论坛币也需要精力和时间，你明明传了假档，被别人指出来了还强词夺理、牛气哄哄，这种态度就让更多人不爽。
还有GAMERIP，那游戏公司还单独出OST干嘛？又不是附赠的特典CD。

这么说吧,我从逻辑上来推敲一下.

假如这些档都是MICFOX下了别人的档后再无经任何转档处理自传MU然后发布的,那么几乎所有的档(除了50M的宫本笑里那张)的修改时间都和他发布的时间极其接近,这点不太合常理,有那么次次别人一自压好就能马上发布,他就能马上下到,然后更就能马上上传到MU发布吗?时间配合之好,太天衣了吧.

假如他是下了别人发的称为无损的档,再自转为自己喜欢的无损格式再上传的话,那么修改时间倒是说得通,但是请注意,他的档有以些是APE,有些是FLAC,有些是整轨,有些是分轨,请问,这样将档自转格式保存转得如此5花8门,是不是也很不合常理呢?

惊！马克思佩恩2和暗黑编年史竟然是假无损……尤其是马克思佩恩2，以前在网上找了很久都没有无损或者320KMP3，当时收到micfox发的无损时虽然有点小疑惑但心情非常激动，今天才知道是假的，真的很令人伤心啊！你骗我的钱可以，但骗感情就太过分了！（好暧昧的感觉@@）
如此大规模的假无损事件还是第一次见……巧合吗？不知道能不能提供一下你下“无损”的网站

话说micfox，你发的马克思佩恩2是不是这个网站的game rip转的无损？
http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/max-payne-2-original-soundtrack-game-rip-

怎么说呢
首先是不看版规
其次是不检查档案
导致了大面积假档
态度上也存在问题
不说有心还是无心
但结果就像我上面说的不但浪费大家的时间还让人空欢喜一场

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引用第33楼鬼狩柳桜于2010-11-18 23:31发表的  :
惊！马克思佩恩2和暗黑编年史竟然是假无损……尤其是马克思佩恩2，以前在网上找了很久都没有无损或者320KMP3，当时收到micfox发的无损时虽然有点小疑惑但心情非常激动，今天才知道是假的，真的很令人伤心啊！你骗我的钱可以，但骗感情就太过分了！（好暧昧的感觉@@）
如此大规模的假无损事件还是第一次见……巧合吗？不知道能不能提供一下你下“无损”的网站

话说micfox，你发的马克思佩恩2是不是这个网站的game rip转的无损？
http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/max-payne-2-original-soundtrack-game-rip-
.......

嘛、暗黑编年史的OST咱有自抓檔，
有需要的話我發一下

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引用第33楼鬼狩柳桜于2010-11-18 23:31发表的 :
惊！马克思佩恩2和暗黑编年史竟然是假无损……尤其是马克思佩恩2，以前在网上找了很久都没有无损或者320KMP3，当时收到micfox发的无损时虽然有点小疑惑但心情非常激动，今天才知道是假的，真的很令人伤心啊！ 你骗我的钱可以，但骗感情就太过分了！（好暧昧的感觉@@）
如此大规模的假无损事件还是第一次见……巧合吗？不知道能不能提供一下你下“无损”的网站

话说micfox，你发的马克思佩恩2是不是这个网站的game rip转的无损？
http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/max-payne-2-original-soundtrack-game-rip-
.......

这位仁兄不要激动
马克思佩恩2压根没出过OST
我当时下完了还特意去VGMDB找了很久
除了一个电影的OST外压根没有档案
暗黑编年时我在测的时候还希望是个真档呢
结果我也很失望
啊
小洛洛能发的话最好不过了
我顺便无耻地想多要个Elvandia Story Original Soundtrack

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引用第35楼roxas_hal于2010-11-18 23:45发表的 :

嘛、暗黑编年史的OST咱有自抓檔，
有需要的話我發一下

我也很希望您能再发一下 Bahamut lagoon ost这张,以前MU的连接挂了,我以前没下到过.....

想起以前某和月无损合集，也是全APE(假档都偏爱猴子么=w=

绝望了，对这个拖只档还要查看频谱的世界绝望了~~(人类真是复杂的生物@@
咱不介意收lossy物，但假档还是会让人神经衰弱~~

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引用第38楼cellindoor于2010-11-18 23:59发表的 :
想起以前某和月无损合集，也是全APE(假档都偏爱猴子么=w=

绝望了，对这个拖只档还要查看频谱的世界绝望了~~(人类真是复杂的生物@@
咱不介意收lossy物，但假档还是会让人神经衰弱~~

我下他的假档都是flac的
确实如果一开始说是MP3反而没有那么失望